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Lloyd Miller's avatar

Great to distribute the NEWS BENDERS, but your defense of the moon landing is ridiculous. Of course the radio messages recorded are REAL! The messages were between land based astroNOTs pretending to be in SPACE and mission control. They also talked to President Nixon.

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Mark Tokarski's avatar

Regarding the 1,000 hours of exchanges between astronauts and Mission Control, two problems:

1: Easily faked, even in 1969, and even if real, the evidence is only of people talking to each other, but has no bearing on where they were when the words were spoken. Other possible locations could be anywhere, as in Nevada or LEO, or Houston. The voices could be anyone, including men working shifts for minimums wage. Since it's NASA, most likely it was college grads who signed NDAs. It is certain that if the moon landings were faked, that all involved would be cognizant that some evidence would have to be on hand. Also, microphones used would have to distort on one end to make it seem that the voices were distant. Easily done. Even in 1969.

2. Unless you've listened to the 1,000 hours, you've no evidence that there are 1,000 hours of recordings. You're just taking NASA's word for it.

There is no record of A11 taking off in a consistent single reel movie. Phil Pollacia did one on a Super 8, and the bearings of the takeoff were verified against the tower to make sure that the film was in sync with real time. Thereafter we find that at 105 seconds the rocket is at the cirrostratus level, 26,000 feet where NASA places it at 79,000. (Cirrostratus can be as low as 18,000 feet.) This tells me that the rocket went somewhere, but not the moon, as it did not have the necessary thrust to escape LEO.

Without piling on, the evidence that they did not go to the moon is stronger than that they did. The thing that perplexes me is why? Given the technology involved in just achieving LEO with humans aboard (if there were), there was some unstated objective. At one time I suspected space weaponry and spy satellites and all of that, a possibility, but saying they were going to the moon to cover for that is such a far reach. I know JFK (the fake martyr) said we had to get there before 1970, but I doubt he knew what we was saying, only reading a script. So it appears that as early as 1961 it was known that the moon landings would be faked in 1969. You say that 911 was foreshadowed in 1947. Why not the moon?

All very confusing. A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

"Revelation of the method" could be nothing more than failure to dot i's and cross t's.

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